just think what are the options, get rid of hird and rebuild with a new coach or keep him until next year then after a few ■■■■ performances the pressure comes then maybe a sacking, then interim coach… So we could basicaly losse a year to be in the same situation? I think we need to move on
I would also be advocating signing up Hird for a few more years … if I thought he could coach.
I have awoken this morning with two very clear feelings about the club moving forward
Our list has the bones of a premiership contender. People go on about our spine, but these last few weeks have shown me that its our bottom end of the 22 where our biggest advancements will come. Zerrett, Laverde, Edwards, Langford and Daniher are all 21 or under and have the ability to legitimately become stars of the comp. All of them have shown at time in the last 8 weeks that they have tools that can win games of football. They are all exciting, and all have that class that has been so rare to the red and black the last few years.
I am really starting to become certain, we cant move forward with Hird as coach. It pains me to say, because if there is any man on earth who could pull this off against the odds, it James Hird. But here is the thing, this is a pro sports team, a business, with a million stake holders. You cant make a decision with the intent to move your business forward based on someone defying the odds from this far back. Even if that man is James Hird. We will never know if James Hird can be a premiership coach, sure, but we cant afford to make a decision on what moves a list of 44 forward over one man.
We should approach the best and the brightest minds in AFL coaching. Get a hit list. Throw money at them. Watch them laugh. “Coach a team with half the list looking at a 2 year ban - why would I want to do that?!”
This is the most ridiculous suggestion I’ve ever read.
Will be interesting to see how many of the " if Hird goes Im done with the club" nut jobs follow through if Hird gets the ■■■■
We should approach the best and the brightest minds in AFL coaching. Get a hit list. Throw money at them. Watch them laugh. "Coach a team with half the list looking at a 2 year ban - why would I want to do that?!"
At worst it will be a 1 year ban backdated.
I have awoken this morning with two very clear feelings about the club moving forwardOur list has the bones of a premiership contender. People go on about our spine, but these last few weeks have shown me that its our bottom end of the 22 where our biggest advancements will come. Zerrett, Laverde, Edwards, Langford and Daniher are all 21 or under and have the ability to legitimately become stars of the comp. All of them have shown at time in the last 8 weeks that they have tools that can win games of football. They are all exciting, and all have that class that has been so rare to the red and black the last few years.
I am really starting to become certain, we cant move forward with Hird as coach. It pains me to say, because if there is any man on earth who could pull this off against the odds, it James Hird. But here is the thing, this is a pro sports team, a business, with a million stake holders. You cant make a decision with the intent to move your business forward based on someone defying the odds from this far back. Even if that man is James Hird. We will never know if James Hird can be a premiership coach, sure, but we cant afford to make a decision on what moves a list of 44 forward over one man.
Is it just A pro sports team? Or is it Essendon. Because if it’s just A pro sports team, I don’t really give a ■■■■ what happens to it.
We should approach the best and the brightest minds in AFL coaching. Get a hit list. Throw money at them. Watch them laugh. "Coach a team with half the list looking at a 2 year ban - why would I want to do that?!"At worst it will be a 1 year ban backdated.
I love when people know the decision while the coach and players themselves don’t
Bomber Thompson was due to be sacked but survived the club review in 2006 and went on the become one of the great coaches of the great teams of the modern era.
And he had a list stacked full of young superstars on the rise.
Give Hird a fkn break!
Coaching with his hands tied behind his back in terms of the quality and depth of the list (we haven’t been able to cope with injuries to key players), plus a mentally shattered group.
The only thing that needs to change is peoples patience and acceptance of reality.
We will improve dramatically next year with us free of the WADA crap, a very clear mandate to refresh the list (Hird said 8-10 changes) and address where we deficient and a hopefully a fitter side that gets luckier on the injury front.
Bomber Thompson was due to be sacked but survived the club review in 2006 and went on the become one of the great coaches of the great teams of the modern era.And he had a list stacked full of young superstars on the rise.
Give Hird a fkn break!
Coaching with his hands tied behind his back in terms of the quality and depth of the list, plus a mentally shattered group.
The only thing that needs to change is peoples patience and acceptance of reality.
We will improve dramatically next year with us clear of the WADA crap, a very clear mandate to refresh the list (Hird said 8-10 changes) and address where we deficient and a hopefully a fitter side that gets luckier on the injury front.
Bomber had taken that list to the preliminary finals in 04 and lost a semi to Sydney by a point in 05. We haven’t won a final since 04. Slightly different situations.
Bomber Thompson was due to be sacked but survived the club review in 2006 and went on the become one of the great coaches of the great teams of the modern era.And he had a list stacked full of young superstars on the rise.
Give Hird a fkn break!
Coaching with his hands tied behind his back in terms of the quality and depth of the list, plus a mentally shattered group.
The only thing that needs to change is peoples patience and acceptance of reality.
We will improve dramatically next year with us clear of the WADA crap, a very clear mandate to refresh the list (Hird said 8-10 changes) and address where we deficient and a hopefully a fitter side that gets luckier on the injury front.
Bomber had taken that list to the preliminary finals in 04 and lost a semi to Sydney by a point in 05. We haven’t won a final since 04. Slightly different situations.
Hird also doesn’t have Ablett, Scarlett, Ling, Bartel, Corey, Enright, Taylor, Stokes, Motlop, prime Chapman etc etc etc.
Slightly different situations.
The guy needs clear air. A year post-WADA and then we’ll see where we’re at. I think we’ll be in a much better headspace next year and I believe jimmy will prove he can coach.
If Hird goes into 2016 as senior coach he will be a lame duck. If he loses a few early he will be gone, if he wins a few early then the noise will die down but he's never going to be trusted to take this list to a premiership after the disgraceful performances of the last 10 weeks.We need someone new, preferably either a new coach from a progressive program (eg Dew) or an older coach with a history of success (eg Lyon, Longmire, Worsfold). I’d even look at Ratten and McCartney as guys who deserve a second chance as senior coaches.
Hird is not a premiership coach who has had a bad luck year, his only coaching experience is with his son’s U14s. The AFL is not the place to learn how to turn an underperforming team around.
Re-read what you have written Andrew.
It is not a matter if Hird can coach, he has proved he can with a 13-3 in 2013, and then stripped from finals.
The real matter is, no-one could take this list to a flag, as it is not good enough. No disrespect to these boys but they would not get a game at a top four club, currently including the Doggies !
So while you lump all this on Hird, think hard about what it takes to win a flag and let me know if this list could win one under any coach.
Interesting that you mentioned the doggies who have gone from a bottom four club to a top six club because of … Ta da!!! A new coach.
I must have missed the bit about the doggies going through 3 years of an investigation. You cannot compare our situation to anything else.
https://soundcloud.com/abc_grandstand/ess-midfielder-david-zaharakisThat was really hard to listen too
Perhaps he should get a hardball and we might be ok.
I have awoken this morning with two very clear feelings about the club moving forwardOur list has the bones of a premiership contender. People go on about our spine, but these last few weeks have shown me that its our bottom end of the 22 where our biggest advancements will come. Zerrett, Laverde, Edwards, Langford and Daniher are all 21 or under and have the ability to legitimately become stars of the comp. All of them have shown at time in the last 8 weeks that they have tools that can win games of football. They are all exciting, and all have that class that has been so rare to the red and black the last few years.
I am really starting to become certain, we cant move forward with Hird as coach. It pains me to say, because if there is any man on earth who could pull this off against the odds, it James Hird. But here is the thing, this is a pro sports team, a business, with a million stake holders. You cant make a decision with the intent to move your business forward based on someone defying the odds from this far back. Even if that man is James Hird. We will never know if James Hird can be a premiership coach, sure, but we cant afford to make a decision on what moves a list of 44 forward over one man.
There is a reason I always read on when you speak/type gotta agree with this! Both parts.
I think it’s been a bit longer than “long enough”.
I think it’s been a bit longer than “long enough”.Indeed, all the more reason to make informed, calculated, emotionless choices. Comb the world, speak to the best clubs, make the right choices. Fix this.
I think the problem here is there is a difference between losing looking promising and playing with structure and losing looking lost , looking like they dont know what to do with the ball.
Right now its great to see youth in the mix but what does hird tell the team to do? Surely it isnt the perplexing kick forward 3/4 of the ground then go back to go forward again, or to not kick the ball towards goal. If it is or its not, theres a problem and unfortunately its hirds.
I have awoken this morning with two very clear feelings about the club moving forwardOur list has the bones of a premiership contender. People go on about our spine, but these last few weeks have shown me that its our bottom end of the 22 where our biggest advancements will come. Zerrett, Laverde, Edwards, Langford and Daniher are all 21 or under and have the ability to legitimately become stars of the comp. All of them have shown at time in the last 8 weeks that they have tools that can win games of football. They are all exciting, and all have that class that has been so rare to the red and black the last few years.
I am really starting to become certain, we cant move forward with Hird as coach. It pains me to say, because if there is any man on earth who could pull this off against the odds, it James Hird. But here is the thing, this is a pro sports team, a business, with a million stake holders. You cant make a decision with the intent to move your business forward based on someone defying the odds from this far back. Even if that man is James Hird. We will never know if James Hird can be a premiership coach, sure, but we cant afford to make a decision on what moves a list of 44 forward over one man.
Is it just A pro sports team? Or is it Essendon. Because if it’s just A pro sports team, I don’t really give a ■■■■ what happens to it.
That’s the problem FS, to many choices and non choices being made because this IS Essendon and not what’s for the best