The positive thread. find something, anything


Did you have to pay? If so, how much did they sting you for?


Enough of that Noons, beehave yourself.


You blokes should both be sued for punitive damages.

You’re just not pollen them off anymore.


The seasonal hazards of using our railway foot crossing ramp, featuring a huge flowering gum. Signs go up to beware of the bees at one stage of the season. At another stage, there is a risk of broken bones from slipping on the gum nuts discarded by the little corellas.


Sounds like a really silly place to put a Railway foot crossing ramp eh? :smirk:


The ramp connects the platforms and bus connections. Short of cutting down the tree, we need a lift or escalator for those seasonal hazards.


Submitted my PhD thesis yesterday.


On the vagaries of time , rumour ,response. winning and losing in a 24 hour period on this site ,


Bet you are buzzing. Home grown, honey. You beauty.


Does anyone know how to change avatar - I want to look more positive


Same. My bloke seems a bit down in the dumps.


This’ll sort ya!


I’ve decided to swim in raw sewage.
I love it.
Now I’m feeling more positive.


Lawn order did not determine the Victorian elections.


Nor paver numbers.



Apiarist strikes gold finding more than 50,000 bees in a bathroom brood and ‘monster’ hive packed with honey - ABC Rural - ABC News

Jennifer NicholsUpdated about an hour ago

Scott Whittaker vacuuming up bees from the honeycomb he has removed from the roof.

Scott Whittaker uses a vacuum to safely transfer the bees to a special hive for relocation.

(ABC Rural: Jennifer Nichols)

When Scott Whittaker started cutting into the ceiling of a Sunshine Coast house he had no idea he was about to encounter what “could only be described as a monster”, the largest colony of bees he has ever removed from a home.

So the Hinterland Bees apiarist filmed the fascinating procedure.

More than 50,000 bees had packed the ceiling of a bathroom with so much honeycomb that it took him nearly twelve physically-demanding hours to save and relocate the colony.

Just as he thought he was getting to the end, Mr Whittaker discovered honey stores that went back another 1.2 metres, dripping down onto his worksite — ladder in a shower cubicle.

He has been run off his feet since June, collecting wild swarms and cutting more than 30 bee hives from the cavities of homes on Queensland’s Sunshine Coast.

As Australians become more aware of the value of bees in the environment, demand for services like his has been booming.

It was the third hive he had cut out of a ceiling in one week, “which is starting to wear me out a bit,” Mr Whittaker laughed.

“It’s quite nice when they’re down nice and low in the wall and you can sit on a milk crate and cut them out that way. But when you’re working in the ceiling it is a bit of a contortion job.”

He works without gloves and said that bees are not aggressive, just defensive.

Vicki Arnold lived with the bees for over three years after seeing the original swarm enter a hole in the exterior wall of her Nambour home.

“A few people told us they’d go away, we’ve all been stung,” Ms Arnold said.

“They’ve built an empire here,” boarder Kyle Stiller joked.

“It’s always ‘fun’ when you finish work and you turn your light on and the bees come flying into the room.”

Ms Arnold’s mother tried calling a number of beekeepers before Mr Whittaker agreed to take on the challenge, arriving with an angle grinder, ladder and vacuum machinery to get to work.

He uses a thermal imager to identify the location of the brood nests, which the bees regulate at around 34 degrees Celsius, before exposing the hive and safely sucking the bees into a standard hive box with his industrial vacuum.

Where’s Queeny?

The key to speeding up the operation is tracking down the queen amongst thousands of worker bees and placing her into a small cage.

“Queens live for anywhere up to five years and once I find the queen I can work a lot quicker. I put her in a little cage and they won’t abandon her,” Mr Whittaker said.

“The female worker bees live for about six weeks and just work themselves to death, basically, for the sake of the hive. They’re very altruistic in that way.”

The brood comb full of eggs and larvae and pupae is removed and attached to standard bee hive frames with rubber bands.

“Once I’ve removed everything from inside here I set the hive up out near where the original entrance is, block off the original entrance, and then all the returning foraging bees will go into the hive box that I’ve set up there,” he said.

The bees were then taken back to his North Maleny property to remain in quarantine for three months.

“Everyone’s been growing aware of the potential decline of honey bees across the world,” Mr Whittaker said.

“It’s not as big a problem in Australia as it is in other parts of the world at this point in time, so I think it’s just really important that we stay ahead of the game in that regard.”

Apart from the risk of anaphylactic reactions to bee stings, disease is the biggest reason why European bee hives need to be monitored and managed.

“We do have one particularly really bad disease of honey bees which is called American foulbrood (AFB). It’s a bacterial based disease that is fatal to a hive,” Mr Whittaker said.

"If you find it in a hive you have to euthanase the bees, you have to burn the equipment or have it irradiated.

“A stronger colony will come in and rob the honey from the declining AFB-affected colony, take that back to their nest and infect that.”

Avoiding a ‘slime-out’

One local pest company now refers cases to him as an alternative to destroying hives, and Mr Whittaker warned of the consequences that can follow if bees are killed with chemicals.

“Once you poison a hive, after three months the insecticide wears off and the first thing that happens is small hive beetle, another pest of bee keepers, moves in,” he said.

"They defecate in the honey and release a yeast that ferments the honey and turns it into a foul ooze that’s known as a ‘slime-out’.

"It will spread out across the ceiling, turning it into a pitch black mess. So instead of replacing just a little bit of the ceiling you’re replacing the entire ceiling.

Australian Honey Bee Industry Council executive director Trevor Weatherhead said it was important to call for help.

“Act to ring an apiarist as soon as you see a swarm,” Mr Weatherhead said.

“If they can get the nest out straight away it’s good practice, and [it] helps the home owner as well.”

The experienced apiarist said brick houses were commonly targeted as potential homes by bees and he recommended preventative measures.

“The best thing for people to do is buying some aluminium fly wire and put that in the weeps hole so the bees can’t get in, but the wall can still breathe and the timber won’t swell up when it gets wet,” he said.

As for the ‘monster’ hive, Scott Whittaker was able to retrieve enough honey to provide the colony with a store of food to help it recover from relocation.

And he provided Vicki Arnold with an addition bonus — some sweet honey as well.

“I love my job. It’s always kind of exciting to open a new hive and see what’s in there,” he said.

“Finding the queen is always a nice, little cathartic moment, because it really is a bit of a needle in a haystack.”


On the back of Victoria voting with intellect on Sat, reaffirming my faith in people in General, it seems the next best piece of good news for the State and City I could imagine went by almost unnoticed amidst it all.

The Espy is BACK!! You bluddy ripper.

(Well worthy of posting the News twice IMO … :wink: )

It’s confirmed: the Espy is reopening this weekend

By Emily Lloyd-Tait

4-5 minutes

News / Bars & Pubs

Updated: Tuesday November 20 2018, 1:31pm

A courtyard at the new Espy

Photograph: Supplied

St Kilda’s beloved Esplanade Hotel is finally ready to swing open the doors in a fresh new chapter in the pub’s history. The Sand Hill Road hospitality group (Garden State Hotel, the Terminus) is behind the amazing revival, which from photos looks tres lush. There’s a spot in the expansive watering hole for all speeds of drinking and dining. There’s a curb-side beer garden, a basement stage, public bar, main bar, garden terrace with a retractable glass roof and views out over the St Kilda pier, the Gershwin Room bandroom, and a casual dining room. The venue will also open a Cantonese restaurant and cocktail bar by year’s end. After all that work, staff are not about to just chuck some parmas back on the menu and be done with it – they’re installing charcoal grills, pizza ovens and rotisseries. Plus there’ll be weekend brunch from 9am with crab omelettes, scrambled tofu and avocado, and mushroom and halloumi rolls.

We just had news that in Sydney, the new Employees Only speakeasy has a séance room, but here at the Espy we’re getting a fully functioning podcast studio that can be booked, and at the top of the famous 140-year-old staircase there are 19th-century art- and science-themed rooms.

Photograph: Simon Shiff

And as to the music program, the three stages are packed with a true cross-section of Melbourne’s music scene, from the newcomers playing their first gigs to international acts wanting to play in that hallowed bandroom: already on the line-up are ticketed gigs from the Teskey Brothers, PP Arnold, Tex Perkins, Dan Sultan and the Chats.

The interior of the Espy

Photograph: Supplied

Hotel Esplanade, opens Fri Nov 23. 11 The Esplanade, St Kilda 3182.

Fancy seeing a gig? Check one of Melbourne’s best live music pubs.

Staff writer


Oh dear.
That’s not the farking Espy.
That’s just another designer pub.
Very sad.


Hmmm, … checking the Gig Guide, … it seems there’s only the Basement and the Gershwin having gigs atm.,. … but at least all the Basement Gigs seem to be free still, … so that’s a good start, and good news for all the Students and other not so flush young’ns still.

Makes me think they’ll not be having Bands n the Front bar except for special events, anymore, as it appears is the case on NYE.

That 2nd photo is of the skinny Old Public Bar, which hasn’t changed much since the last reno by the looks, but the first one I figured was a new rear Beer garden or something out the rear, but now realise, it looks like the main bar side of the Front bar, looking over the Bay, and they’ve pulled the roof off it and replaced it with a closable one, … which is kind of an odd thing to do. Hope it closes real quick.

Did I read the developers are from Sydney?? Surely they’ve heard of Melb’s freaky weather even if they are??


I thought it was good