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After a series of shorter matches that didn’t let an impressive line-up show their stuff, the build to the last three matches was not wasted, with them all paying out. I also really liked the “slobberknocker” between Ishii and Makabe.

Four-way match for the Junior Heavyweight Tag Title: ReDRagon (Bobby Fish and Kyle O’Reilly) © vs. Forever Hooligans (Alex Koslov & Rocky Romero) vs. Time Splitters (Alex Shelley & Kushida) vs. The Young Bucks

Can’t argue with the talent on display, but this is an awful lot of people to follow and the pace is unsurprisingly relentless and storyline largely absent. ROH tag champions Red Dragon retain the IWGP titles, with the super-kicking Bucks the most obvious threat.

I have to say I preferred the recent series of TNA matches between the American Wolves, the Hardys, and the Dudleys.

Six-man tag match: Bullet Club (Bad Luck Fale, Jeff Jarrett & Yujiro Takahashi) vs. Hiroyoshi Tenzan, Satoshi Kojimo & Tomoaki Honma

Plus a considerable cast of extras, including Karen Jarrett and Scott D’Amore. First guitar attempt backfires, with Takahashi taking it. It’s a very short and fairly inconsequential match, unless you’re Honma, who takes the pin after a top rope flying headbutt.

Eight man tag match: Suzukigun (Shelton X Benjamin, Lance Archer, Davey Boy Smith Jr, & Takashi Iizuka) vs. Mikey Nicholls, Naomichi Marufuji, Shane Haste & Toru Yano

Match based around Iizuka turning on former tag team member Yano, with all three of Yano’s team then brought in from NOAH. This match is notably more paced and character driven than the previous spotfest and chaos match. Damn, Archer does an amazingly high powerbomb. Iizuka cops a knee to the jaw and is pinned in another short match. I still love Shelton, even if he only got the time to do about one freaky thing in this.

Match must end in KO or submission: Kazushi Sakuraba vs. Minoru Suzuki

Yay, the first singles match in a huge card… Early tussle and break, to that characteristic Japanese applause. These two veterans have never fought each other before.

This is a quasi-MMA match though normal wrestling rules apply, including rope breaks (though they’re both averse to this early) and no closed fists. A keylock on Suzuki and the consequent arm injury frames this match. Sakarabu takes advantage to throw kicks mercilessly to the body, but eventually falls victim to a standing rear naked choke.

NEVER Openweight Championship: Tomohiro Ishii © vs. Togi Makabe

Starts with a battle of elbow strikes and strength challenges. Chops versus overhand strikes. Jim Ross goes nuts saying ‘slobberknocker’. Extremely unconvincing ten-punch from the top rope in the corner. Slap fest.

‘Please sir, can I have some more?’ they’re both saying. Powerbombs swapped. Supplexes, fireman’s carry drop from atop the ropes. Pins aren’t working for either of them. Clubbing contest. Overhead chops versus headbutts to the chest.

Back we go to forearm challenges. Headbutt swaps. Double-armed sledge swaps.

Makage fells Ishii with a clubbing clothesline before doing a knee drop from the top rope to win the match and the title.

That was great fun. Surprised it was only 12 minutes. Crowd was into it. If you liked this and haven’t watched all those five star “King’s Road” matches from 1990s Japan your life is extremely incomplete.

Junior Heavyweight Championship: Ryusuke Taguchi © vs. Kenny Omega

The Funky Weapon (Taguchi’s butt) is damaging early. The Bucks are at ringside to support fellow Bullet Clubber Omega, and Taguchi cops some spray to the eyes early on. These competitors are both slightly weird… Taguchi gets to suicide dive on all three Clubbers, temporarily evening things up. A running powerbomb by Omega is reversed sweetly to see him smash into the corner. The pace is increasing. Omega gut-wrench all the way up to a powerbomb is impressive (not that Taguchi is a huge guy, admittedly). Apron interference backfires, but only a two count for Taguchi. Omega counters with three brutal moves to take the title.

Tag Team Championship: Bullet Club (Karl Anderson & Doc Gallows) © vs. Meiyu Tag (Hirooki Goto & Katsuyori Shibata)

No surprise to see Bullet Club with a couple extras in their corner (Tama Tonga and “Bullet Babe” Amber O’Neal). But they do nothing and ten minutes later we have new champs. Was fast-paced power hits.

We now have one hour and forty-five minutes left for the last three matches. It’s time for some Phenomonalism!

Match without a stipulation or title (but the suggestion of a #1 heavyweight contendership): AJ Styles vs. Tetsuya Naito

No one extra at ringside for a change. AJ working on the left knee early. Back and forth, and then the most brutal top rope springboard elbow smash I’ve ever seen AJ do. These are not big guys, and can fly as much as anyone, but this is a heavy-hitting match. Anita gets to the rope to escape a calf cutter. Styles gets thrown brutally out of the ring, manages to get back in at the count of 18. Anita tries a hurricanrana, but AJ holds on and converts it to the Styles Clash from the second rope. That’s it, she said, waving her wooden leg, before 15 minutes were up.

Eventually a match will go long, we’re running out of them…

IWGP Intercontinental Championship: Shinsuke Nakamura © vs. Kota Ibusha

First video promo of the night (no translation), and plenty of theatre for Nakamura’s entrance.

The two start cagily, before a little disrespect from Ibusha sees a rapid pace change. A pause, Nakamura offers a handshake; a trap. More mind games from both. Crowd going ape and nothing’s happened yet.

This match is a different mix from these taller types, a bit of strong style but also highspots. And then some closed fists from Ibushi, which is pretty damn weird, and the ref goes off at him. Nakamura gets a couple back though, and it’s back to kicks and supplexes and a vicious Shining Wizard from Ibushi. Match is building building building.

Belly to back supplex (deadweight drag over the ropes) from Ibushi can’t force the pin.

A crowd shot (!) while they recover.

A series of headbutts and nasty strikes from Nakamura, including a top rope fly into the back of the neck… but Ibushi hulks up. Twisting sit-out powerbomb and a big boot, and Nakamura retains after 20 minutes. Post match handshake and promo.

And your main event for the IWGP Heavyweight Championship: Hiroshi Tanahashi © vs. Kazuchika Okada

Video promo.

Match of the Century (well, people have been a bit over-the-top in the lead-up) starts with a long series of rest holds. Finally Okada starts a series of elbow strikes between the two.

The match goes outside and Okada wants the Tombstone Piledriver on the ramp. Has to settle for an FU. But he has to take him back to the ring, can’t win the title that way. Finally misses a backdrop, letting Tanahashi back into it. 270 backsplash from the second rope clearly isn’t enough at this point, and Okada is shortly back in control but not taking his pins seriously. Okada begs the champion to hit him with his best. Elbow strikes galore. A few uppercuts in this match, bit naughty as with the previous match. Tanahashi gets a rare chance, but his frogsplash hits nothing. Okada hits the elbow drop from the top rope, and indicates for his Rainmaker clothesline finish. Nope, and a dragon screw leg whip and repeated kicks to the knees have Okada in trouble. And a backdrop onto the thinly-covered concrete outside doesn’t help. Tanahashi goes to the top rope and frogsplashes out of the ring and over the fence onto Okada.

Back in the ring, and the champ reverses a Tombstone attempt, and hits it brutally. Frogsplash onto Okada’s back. Frogsplash onto Okada’s chest. Kickout!

Tanahashi goes the mocking Rainmaker clothesline but misses. Reversal, Rainmaker from Okada. Kickout!

After a count of 8, both return to their feet. Elbow strikes for superiority. Okada threatens a Tombstone, but Tanahashi escapes.

Supplexes, nearfalls. Repeat.

Damn, they weren’t kidding when they called Okada’s dropkick the greatest in the world. ■■■■■■ impressive 29 minutes into the match!

But Tanahashi hits more leg screws. Frogsplash while one leg was still trapped in the ropes. Another leg screw. Another frogsplash. Another frogsplash.

ONE TWO THREE, and Tanahashi retains.

Okada leaves in tears.

Takahashi promo, then air guitar solo, LOL. And there’s a thing about throwing a towel to the champ so he can wipe it on himself and chuck it back…

P.S. I don’t claim to understand the background leading to the main event, but if that’s 5 stars then there were a stack of 10-starrers in the Nineties.

Further NJPW update:

And the next night on ‘New Year Dash’, AJ pins Tanahashi in an 8-man tag match and makes it quite explicit he’s going to take back “his” IWGP heavyweight title. That match on PPV on Feb 11.

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If you haven't seen NXT R-Evolution you're missing out. Seriously awesome show, with an extremely well-booked main.
Best show I've watched since MITB 2011, despite the lack of Enzo/Cass

WK9 Update.

I have two matches left.

Kenny Omega impresses me every time I see him.

And Ishii v Makabe. Damn man. Talk about strong style.

Very good show with 2 to go.

Kenny Omega is the MAN.

Evidence:


The fun of live shows: massive SHUT THE UP chant for MVP at the start of the new Impact.

And Angle is wrestling again.

LIGHTS GO OUT POST-KNOCKOUTS MATCH…

LIGHTS BACK ON…

[spoiler]

AWESOME KONG IS BACK!

I marked for that more than anything from Wrestle Kingdom.

(In other news, Austin Aries beat Low Ki for the X Title. Roode-Lashley III went seriously bizarro as Low Ki and Samoa Joe, initially masked, and then Eric Young, joined with MVP to allow Lashley to regain the Heavyweight Title. Oooo-kay.)[/spoiler]

And in the other returning wrestling show, Lucha Underground, we have a 20-man* rumble (elimination by pin or submission only) to determine the first champion.

  • or woman, or midget… and they were great contributors.

And your winner is…

Prince Puma (aka Ricochet), pinning Johnny Mundo/Nitro after a 630 splash, in a very enjoyable show-long match.

Admittedly this is old news, as this is a very produced show and happened a few months back. The weird crowd and clumsy edits during matches ■■■■■ me, but you can’t say this doesn’t have a very distinct style, both in the ring and out of it.

I keep seeing this pic and thinking WSPHU. Can tackle.

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I keep seeing this pic and thinking WSPHU. Can tackle.

Is he actually wearing an EFC Guernsey? Lol.

Rumble lands on a public holiday again!

If Daniel Bryan doesn’t win there may be riots

Tomorrow is the big one!

However, more likely the best thing you could see this week is the second and third AXS episodes of NJPW action. Big stories, different but awesome promos, great matches, and really good commentary.

The Rumble. L.O.L. 1 good match out of 5.

One of the worst booked Rumble’s in memory a) they made it obvious who was winning halfway through so the crowd shat over the vast majority of the 2nd half of the match, b) the conclusion was particularly terribly booked, to not even give a hope spot to anybody else at the end just made the crowd crap over the result harder, particularly when they went full SuperCena with the booking.

Expected Mania Card at this stage


Brock Lesnar vs. Roman Reigns for the WWE Title
Sting vs. Triple H
John Cena vs. Rusev
Undertaker vs. Bray Wyatt
Randy Orton vs. Seth Rollins

Massive LOL: #CancelWWENetwork is trending worldwide.

If there was ever a bigger example that vince truly has no idea anymore of how to run the company this PPV was it.

You would think he would of learned from the Batista fiasco last year. I guess not.

Horrible booking simply horrible booking

Something tells me WWE won’t be touting this #1 trend worldwide:

IMG Coding:

When a certain legend/ future hall of famer/ massive over babyface cant get you cheered you know the fans are ■■■■■■.

Well, it seems there is little point in spoiler-ing my comments but I’ll be polite anyway…

Summary: watch the spotfest three-way for the Title, stay the fark away from the rest of it.

At least it was therapeutic writing up the show below:

BOOOOOOOOOO!

[spoiler]The pre-show match has six men, a diva, and a whole lot of groupies around the ring, and the only person anyone cares about is Cesaro — the crowd LOVE him, and boo when the ref spots some innovative cheating by him. They do pop big for the Sharpshooter from Kidd late in the match. Kidd gets the pin after an uppercut from Cesaro on the outside and a twisting package supplex from Kidd (does it have a name?)

Old Age Outlaws job to The Ascension.

Next match: WWE don’t want us to forget this is Sports Entertainment, not pro wrestling. Then again, maybe we should be thankful that the joke team doesn’t win the tag title, this time. I get that they (well, half of them) are popular… but geez.

More video game ads.

Divas tag match. This undercard is seriously underwhelming. Crowd amuses itself with OLÉ chants. Who says a tag match needs a hot tag? Poor Natalya (at least her husband isn’t a loser).

More ads, bite-sized fast food Rumble participant promos.

Oh wait, finally, a match that matters: Lesnar (c, w/ Heyman) vs SuperCena vs MITB-holder Seth Rollins (w/ J&J Security). One pin or submission for the Title.

Cena out first to the the usual bi-polar reaction — when did crowds start singing “John Cena Suuuuucks” during his music? Gold, as with Angle’s “You suck!” entrance.

Modest applause for Rollins and Lesnar.

An hour in, the PPV begins.

Lesnar deals out supplexes for everyone, crowd approves. Minor “this is awesome” chant for him.

Match must be too methodical, “EC dub” chant.

Lesnar decides to break Cena’s arm, Rollins intervenes with a knee to Lesnar’s head. Gang up time on Lesnar. Lesnar kicks out of FU on one.

Cena loses his mind, and tries to do an early Five Moves of Doom before Lesnar can get back up. Crowd boos. Lesnar happily intervenes, and gives Cena a couple more German supplexes. This allows Rollins to get a free hit on the distracted Lesnar again.

Three times off the rope and Cena fells Lesnar. But the third guy always stops the pin (including a nice spot when Lesnar catches a flying Rollins on his shoulders, and F5s him).

Lesnar clears the Spanish table, and SMASHES the TV box into the stairs. Nice!

But he walks into three AAs. Doesn’t matter, Lesnar kicks out.

Curb stomp on Lesnar! Cena has to dive in to stop the three count. No building here, we’re going ALL FINISHERS, ALL THE TIME.

Cena puts Lesnar through the timekeeper barricade. Remember when that was really rare, not on every PPV and many free shows as well?

Crowd still lap it up, though.

Lesnar eats stairs. Twice. Knocked onto Spanish table. Rollins goes to the top rope (crowd loves it) and takes the long leap to drop the elbow.

THIS IS AWESOME, say the crowd.

That was a BIG jump. Nearly overshot.

Cena and Rollins trade near-falls while Brock recovers. Rollins the crowd favourite in that one.

Cena superplex attempt reversed, Rollins carries Cena all the way into a power bomb into the far turnbuckle.

STF, crowd instantly booing. Rollins all but at the ropes before J&J intervene (he would have made it).

Lesnar still dead on the collapsed Spanish table.

SuperCena does the double FU on J&J, and then one for Rollins as well. Close two count.

Lesnar still dead.

LET’S GO CENA! CENA SUCKS!

BOO! YAY! as they trade punches.

Curb stomp, two count only.

Lesnar still dead.

Rollins to the top rope, does a 450 twisting splash and lands on Cena all the way in the middle of the ring. Certain endgame? Nope… HERE COMES LESNAR! German supplex for both of them. Rollins lands on his feet on the third German attempt, and makes two briefcase hits to Lesnar’s head; nope, not enough, reversal, F5!

Would you like a heavyweight spotfest with that, sir? Sometimes we’ll play dead, sometimes we’ll no-sell HUGELY. But still fun to watch.

ONE TWO THREE. Lesnar retains at 22:30.

We have a PPV called Fast Lane?

Royal Rumble: this match is all about repeating this match is all about the numbers. Repeat that many many many times. Ah well, we need a break after that last match.

  1. Miz vs 2) Truth. Double self-elimination, please. Presumably Miz has to hang around long enough so Sandow can throw himself out of the ring as soon as Miz does. FFS.

90-second intervals.

  1. BUBBA RAY DUDLEY!!! In full nerd clothing, sadly (the guy has shown he can be a legit headliner in recent years at TNA — if he wants to have a decent run, please don’t sabotage it this way!)

Somehow this is his first Rumble match. He destroys Miz, lets the black guy do the headbutt to the groin. GET THE TABLES, he says to the black guy. Dudley Death Drop on Miz. Bubba tosses out the two starters.

  1. Luke Harper, one on one with Bubba. Giants battle. Nice.

  2. Lights out! Bray Wyatt. Crowd starts chanting WE WANT DEVON! Bubba dumped out. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

  3. Curtis Axel comes out to Bray and Harper… but gets attacked from behind by Rowan, who wants to take his spot illegally. Harper pretends he’s on Rowan’s side, Rowan falls for it. Bray tosses out Harper along with Rowan. Curtis still dead, apparently, and not coming.

  4. Boogeyman! Ooo-kay. Apparently this is solely so they can say it’s “Eater of Worlds” versus “Eater of Worms”. Oh dear.

It’s a freak-out contest. Neither blinks. One clothesline later, and Bray tosses out the jobber and awaits the next person (still no Curtis).

  1. Sin Cara v2, in his first Royal Rumble (that’s not what the commentators say, of course). Sister Abigail, another jobber tossed out.

Bray is bored, gets on the mic and starts singing.

  1. Boo hoo hoo! Zach Ryder back from injury and general not-very-good-ness. Brief flurry of offence, then tossed out. Crowd gets some more singing time while we wait.

  2. YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES!

(et cetera)

We’re told 2015 is the Year of the Goat.

  1. Fandango. Yawn. Curtis still dead, apparently, not entering. He puts down Bryan, crowd is quiet even when he boasts about it to them. But he takes a Bryan kick to the head, airplane spin, and (almost) over. Holds on.

  2. Tyson Kidd first to double-up tonight. We’re told Bret Hart was #1 in the #1 Rumble.

Kidd and Daniels kill each other with cross-bodies, four men on the mat as…

  1. StarDust enters. Half tosses out Fandango, cat skinned. Is in turn half-tossed out, cat skinned. Bryan supplexes Kidd out. Wyatt thrown out under the top rope, Bryan follows the same way with a suicide dive.

  2. DDP, bang! StarDust does his similar hand motion, cops a Diamond Cutter for that. Later, another Diamond Cutter for Bray.

  3. Rusev. I’m about to type “business is about to pick up” when JBL says the same thing. So predictable :slight_smile:

DDP gets destroyed and tossed out. Ditto Fandango.

Bray and Rusev face off, get interrupted as Bryan flys off the top rope to kick both of them. Kicks for everyone. But Rusev gets him over the top rope, and Bray smashes him off the apron. OH FARK. Crowd is stunned, can’t even boo. Bray gets on top rope to tell the crowd about it.

  1. GoldDust, tenth rumble. Crowd are starting to boo the match.

StarDust tries to chuck out his brother, fails.

DANIEL BRYAN! DANIEL BRYAN! DANIEL BRYAN!

A lull, then BOOOOOOOOOO!

Desultory countdown to the next entrance.

  1. Kingston is here for his latest stunt. Crowd is booing him, just for existing in a Daniel-less world.

DANIEL BRYAN! DANIEL BRYAN! DANIEL BRYAN!

Crowd goes dead quiet.

  1. Adam Rose. Rosebuds are near the ring, Kofi is thrown onto them, gets back in. Yawn. Rose out within seconds.

BOOOOOOOOOO!

Rusev eliminates Kofi, no one cares.

  1. Reigns

BOOOOOOOOOO!

Through the crowd he comes.

BOOOOOOOOOO!

Reigns smashes everyone, dumps out both of the Dusts.

BOOOOOOOOOO!

It’s Reigns vs Rusev and Bray now.

BOOOOOOOOOO!

  1. Big E, gets a milder boo. Rusev and Big E battle, Bray and Reigns hold onto each other in a corner, no one cares.

Just mild booing now.

  1. SANDOW, crowd picks up a bit. But Miz intervenes: “I’m taking your spot!”. Crowd happy when he declines to allow this. A minute later, Sandow is unceremoniously chucked out by Rusev. This is WWE’s version of ‘How to win friends and influence people’.

  2. Swagger. Crowd willing to chant WE, THE PEOPLE, but don’t care once he gets in the ring.

Someone drop a pin.

  1. Ryback. We have a lot of shorter solid dudes in the ring right now, surely the Big Slow is out soon? Rusev latches onto the ropes to stop being a Ryback victim.

Nothing is happening.

  1. Or Kane, that makes sense.

No one can even bother to drop a pin.

Rusev and Wyatt have helped each other a bit in the last fifteen minutes, otherwise very little story to the match.

  1. Ambrose! Crowd a little happier, but not really reacting to his moves. Still, he gets the first chant in some time, for a moment.

A minute later, all is quiet again.

  1. Titus O’Neill. Serious hoss roster here. Hmm, we’ve got Ziggler yet to come — perhaps the last chance for some actual crowd excitement.

Titus out within seconds.

It’s all quiet again.

Still waiting for Curtis Axel to care enough to enter (did they change a rule to say you have to get in before the next guy does?)

  1. Bad News Barrett. Crowd don’t care.

It’s astonishingly quiet. 9 guys in the ring.

Seriously, has everyone left?

  1. CESARO

No reaction as he enters, not much in the ring either. Crowd are like honey badgers, don’t give a ■■■■.

Rusev drop-kicks Big E off the apron.

  1. HERE COMES MAXWELL. Everyone jumps on him, are thrown off. You know the spot.

Mild WE WANT ZIGGLER chant shortly afterwards.

Kane and Big Show jointly throw out Ryback. Show throws out Swagger.

  1. Ziggler. POP! Superkicks for everyone. Crowd isn’t as invested as I’d thought they’d be. Not a good sign. He takes out Barrett.

WTF, next spot is Cesaro swinging Ziggler. Way to make the crowd have no one to care about! At the end, Cesaro nearly clotheslines him out. They wrestle each other onto the apron OH GOD THEY’RE BOTH GOING TO GO AND WE’LL GET A RIOT.

Cesaro superkicked out. Ziggler spending a stupid amount of time outside the rope and in the air: KO punch from Maxwell, and he’s tossed out as dead weight.

RIOT, you bastards! RIOT!

BOOOOOOOOOO!

Big Show and Kane, versus Ambrose and Reigns (maybe). Reigns has blood on his cheek, he should pop over the top rope and get that seen to.

Crowd doesn’t care. They boo as Reigns drops Maxwell. But it doesn’t matter as he and Ambrose can’t get him out.

BOOOOOOOOOO!

Ambrose dropped out.

BOOOOOOOOOO!

And now the crowd has no choice: adopt Reigns, or die.

BULLSHIT, they chant, at length.

Reigns fights back against Maxwell and Kane.

BOOOOOOOOOO!

Show tries to doublecross Kane.

WE WANT ZIGGLER! WE WANT ZIGGLER! WE WANT ZIGGLER!

The two corporate men go at it.

BOOOOOOOOOO!

They’re so distracted, Reigns tosses them both out.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

They come back in and beat him up, no one cares.

IF YOU SMELL WHAT THE ROCK IS COOKING! Wow, shallow attempt to send the crowd home happy. Some want to boo, but he is electrifying.

Reigns recovers for a superman punch on Big Show.

BOOOOOOOOOO!

As soon as the action stops and the Rock steps out of the ring:

BOOOOOOOOOO!

Rusev emerges from under the ring (oh FFS, why do they do this?) but is dropped by Reigns.

BOOOOOOOOOO!

Reigns easily tosses Rusev out.

Music starts, to drown out the boos. Rock back in ring. It makes sense as they are (distant) family, but the crowd is not buying this “passing of the torch” at all.

BOOOOOOOOOO!

But wait, we’re still trying to get Reigns over, as HHH and Stephanie come to the top of the ramp. Rock holds up Reigns’ hand and we get a:

BOOOOOOOOOO!

Oh dear, the music is fading, and all you hear is:

BOOOOOOOOOO! and then silence.

FAIL.[/spoiler]

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Am I am the only one suffering deja vu?
  • HHH restored as The Authority
  • Daniels poised to win the Rumble and advance to Wrestlemania
  • a muscle-bound darling face set to win it instead

At least Rey won’t be humiliated this year…

I’m not claiming to be a genius with this one… but clearly there are a lot of anti-geniuses at WWE headquarters.