Tom Mitchell


#181

2 and a half hours after free agency opens and the Vickery deal hasn’t gone through. What are Hawthorn up to? Does it have something ($) to do with other deals they’re working on?


#182
I've had a couple of North supporters claiming Heaney to them is a done deal. Hard to believe that he's remotely attainable but if he was he'd be the one to go after above ANYONE else in the league

I guess if Heeney likes being out of the spotlight in Sydney, then North would be the Victorian club to move to.

Guess it depends on your idea of the spotlight. He would be popular for selfies whilst rattling tins outside Flinders Street Station…


#183
2 and a half hours after free agency opens and the Vickery deal hasn't gone through. What are Hawthorn up to? Does it have something ($) to do with other deals they're working on?

Done now. Richmond have 3 days to match it


#184
2 and a half hours after free agency opens and the Vickery deal hasn't gone through. What are Hawthorn up to? Does it have something ($) to do with other deals they're working on?

Done now. Richmond have 3 days to match it

Only a 2 year deal. That might mean he will be a 2nd round compensation pick; which would encourage Richmond to match and hopefully force a trade.


#185
Forced out? You didn't see the Grand Final?

I’m with Diggers, and he’s got to be an age.

I remember mcdav getting right under his skin up at Bendigo in 2005…the day I met megz and mcdav for the first time.

“Give us a grin, McGlynn” in the fog and cold at Bendigo. He lost it, too.

4 quarters of telling him non stop how ■■■■ his haircut was.


#186
If not already, we should start working on Heeney for 2018. Could win a flag with him.

#187
2 and a half hours after free agency opens and the Vickery deal hasn't gone through. What are Hawthorn up to? Does it have something ($) to do with other deals they're working on?

Done now. Richmond have 3 days to match it

Only a 2 year deal. That might mean he will be a 2nd round compensation pick; which would encourage Richmond to match and hopefully force a trade.

Did Richmond offer Vickery a contract ? A bit rich to match an offer if no contract has been offered - Hawks have little to trade to Richmond.


#188

If it farks the hawks up i am happy


#189

Richmond were only ever expecting a 2nd round compo pick for Vickery, ie pick 26 now (when you factor in the Lions priority pick), but unless they’ve offered him massive coin over this 2 years, I don’t see a 2 year deal being enough to trigger a 2nd round compo pick, I reckon based on the offer the Hawks have made, they will get a third round compo pick, so they will seriously consider matching it.

Which will leave Vickery in limbo, as you would figure the Hawks will spend as long as they can trying to get the Mitchell and JOM deals done and leaving everything available for those deals before looking at trading for Vickery.


#190

theyll get a 2nd round for that offer


#191

I’d say the best they could hope for is End of 2nd round like what Bris got for Leuenberger. Also what Hawks got for Suckling.

edit: I’m talking about Vickery here


#192
Richmond were only ever expecting a 2nd round compo pick for Vickery, ie pick 26 now (when you factor in the Lions priority pick), but unless they've offered him massive coin over this 2 years, I don't see a 2 year deal being enough to trigger a 2nd round compo pick, I reckon based on the offer the Hawks have made, they will get a third round compo pick, so they will seriously consider matching it.

Which will leave Vickery in limbo, as you would figure the Hawks will spend as long as they can trying to get the Mitchell and JOM deals done and leaving everything available for those deals before looking at trading for Vickery.

They’re not getting Mitchell.


#193
theyll get a 2nd round for that offer

Well, that’s it then. Case closed.


#194

The afl make this crap up as they go. They manufactured pick 3 for Frawley. If they want to help richmond, they will.


#195
The afl make this crap up as they go. They manufactured pick 3 for Frawley. If they want to help richmond, they will.
How did they "manufacture" pick #3 for Frawley? He was on a big, long term contract, relatively young and an AA player. 1st round compensation seems right, the only element that potentially made it over the top was Melbourne's ladder position.

If he’d left a contender and they’d got #15 based on ladder position nobody would have blinked twice.


#196
The afl make this crap up as they go. They manufactured pick 3 for Frawley. If they want to help richmond, they will.
How did they "manufacture" pick #3 for Frawley? He was on a big, long term contract, relatively young and an AA player. 1st round compensation seems right, the only element that potentially made it over the top was Melbourne's ladder position.

If he’d left a contender and they’d got #15 based on ladder position nobody would have blinked twice.

Apart from one AA season, he’d been mediocre at best in recent years before the trade. There was definitely a feeling that the AFL inflated his value to do Melbourne a good turn.


#197
The afl make this crap up as they go. They manufactured pick 3 for Frawley. If they want to help richmond, they will.
How did they "manufacture" pick #3 for Frawley? He was on a big, long term contract, relatively young and an AA player. 1st round compensation seems right, the only element that potentially made it over the top was Melbourne's ladder position.

If he’d left a contender and they’d got #15 based on ladder position nobody would have blinked twice.

Apart from one AA season, he’d been mediocre at best in recent years before the trade. There was definitely a feeling that the AFL inflated his value to do Melbourne a good turn.

How dare you question their integrity.


#198
The afl make this crap up as they go. They manufactured pick 3 for Frawley. If they want to help richmond, they will.
How did they "manufacture" pick #3 for Frawley? He was on a big, long term contract, relatively young and an AA player. 1st round compensation seems right, the only element that potentially made it over the top was Melbourne's ladder position.

If he’d left a contender and they’d got #15 based on ladder position nobody would have blinked twice.

Was that the same compo as what Hawks got for buddy? Did Geelong get 2 picks for GAJ or one?


#199
The afl make this crap up as they go. They manufactured pick 3 for Frawley. If they want to help richmond, they will.
How did they "manufacture" pick #3 for Frawley? He was on a big, long term contract, relatively young and an AA player. 1st round compensation seems right, the only element that potentially made it over the top was Melbourne's ladder position.

If he’d left a contender and they’d got #15 based on ladder position nobody would have blinked twice.

Was that the same compo as what Hawks got for buddy? Did Geelong get 2 picks for GAJ or one?

Same comp as Buddy. Geelong got a first round pick after their first round pick and a mid first round pick for Ablett. However, the bands of compensation available for expansion teams poaching were different to the bands available for free agency and, if you believe the AFL, the calculations were different.

Ablett was the same compensation Melbourne got for Scully, but that was because GWS offered Scully a bigger contract than GC offered Ablett.


#200
The afl make this crap up as they go. They manufactured pick 3 for Frawley. If they want to help richmond, they will.
How did they "manufacture" pick #3 for Frawley? He was on a big, long term contract, relatively young and an AA player. 1st round compensation seems right, the only element that potentially made it over the top was Melbourne's ladder position.

If he’d left a contender and they’d got #15 based on ladder position nobody would have blinked twice.


Apart from one AA season, he’d been mediocre at best in recent years before the trade. There was definitely a feeling that the AFL inflated his value to do Melbourne a good turn.

Did they also inflate Hawthorn’s offer somehow?