You talking about Newnes? If so then that is not correct, the Saints offered him a 2 year contract and he knocked it back and asked to be delisted.
Could have traded him in the trade period surely?
No bites, everyone knew he was going to be delisted because he rejected the Saints offer. Why pay for him when you can get him as a DFA?
The saints clearly weren’t particularly keen on keeping him if they were willing to let him become a DFA.
They offered him a 2 year contract, he refused and asked to be let go, he didn’t want to be there anymore. The Saints were willing to trade him but no one offered anything and the Bloos had told him they would pick him up as a DFA. Saints had no say in the matter in the end, he didn’t want to be there.
A player only becomes a DFA if their team lets them. Jack Martin is not a DFA. The saints could have made it clear it was a trade for something or the draft. They chose not to, which is fine, but they weren’t helpless.
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I may be wrong but I thought you couldn’t knock back an offer and then be signed up as a DFA?
Unless he went as a regular old UFA
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I also thought that was the case.
Still you made it sound worse for the Saints, it wasn’t like they just decided to get rid of a decent player. Sure they could be like the Suns and be dicks about it, but in the end they allowed him to walk as a DFA because he made it clear he wasn’t staying. Not all clubs play like morons with players lives, that’s usually reserved for clubs like the Suns.
You’re right that they didn’t toss him out, but I do think it speaks to how the player is rated. Maybe it was salary cap with all the ins or something and carlton knew it, but to be willing to let a guy has played all but 2 games in 6 years go for absolutely nothing when their first picks are 51 and 76 suggests to me that they weren’t particularly sad to see him go. They couldn’t even go to the effort of getting pick 57 off carlton, or upgrading 76 to 70 or something?
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VERY ordinary player and I don’t think he’s very tough at all. Seriously have no idea how you’ve come to your conclusions. Hrovat would be the biggest whipping boy at Essendon.
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^ Wow that’s a huge call! 
Maybe that’s why nino identifies with him
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Not sure if mentioned already, but is Adam Tipungwuti on Essendon’s radar? Some of his highlights are truly exciting. In saying that, I don’t know anything about him at all? Does GC have preference?
Get set for draft night drama: Why clubs are holding fire on pick swaps
Will Gold Coast try to move up the draft order on the night?
THIS is a hypothetical – at least for now.
It’s draft night in three weeks and we’re up to pick No.9. Carlton is on the clock and has placed a bid on Fremantle Next Generation Academy forward Liam Henry.
The Blues are interested in Henry (not a hypothetical) and the West Australian teenager has been invited to the opening night of the draft (also not a hypothetical).
Fremantle, with pick No.10, can match the bid with its next selection and Henry will be theirs. Or it can be nimble, flexible and canny, all things the new-age AFL trade and draft system demands.
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The AFL has confirmed that under its rules, a club in Fremantle’s situation would be able to use its five minutes on the clock to trade picks with another club, move down the order, and then match the Academy bid with a later selection/s.
It is possible, in that case, that a club such as Gold Coast (with pick 15 and 20) could swap picks with Fremantle and move up to pick 10. Then the Dockers would be allowed to match the bid with pick 15.
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Under this scenario, after the 20 per cent discount afforded to the Academy clubs, the Dockers would have to pay 1175.2 points under the draft value index to take Henry, a talented indigenous goalkicker.
Pick 15 is worth 1112 points, so if they had done that deal with the Suns, their pick 20 would shift to become pick 22 to pay for the remaining 63.2 points to land Henry.
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Although the Dockers would prefer a bid coming after pick 10, this option would allow them to match with one pick but generate another selection from the trade. They would have to complete the deal, and then match the bid, within their allotted time on the clock.
This is complex. But this is also why we are unlikely to see clubs doing major pick swaps before the draft starts on November 27, because some will want to wait and know for certain where a bid has come for Academy or father-son choices before committing to a deal.
Clubs are expected to have ‘in case of emergency’ deals ready to go, though, as would likely be the case in this hypothetical.
However, some clubs are reluctant to do deals on the night, saying they would prefer to have their trades already done before the draft and to not have to make the calls during the helter-skelter nature of the event.
The Blues traded up to pick No.19 in 2018 to secure Liam Stocker. Picture: AFL Photos
The bid situation has other clubs watching on with interest. Like Gold Coast, others such as Brisbane (picks 16 and 21) and Geelong (picks 14 and 17) are looking to move up the table by packaging selections.
As Cats list manager Stephen Wells said on this week’s Road to the Draft podcast, brought to you by Hostplus, whether they change picks could rely on where bids come.
“It depends a bit on where Academy or father-son players may be bid on, and also we’d obviously need another club to want to do it and [go] the other way,” he said.
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Henry’s draft position is an intriguing topic among clubs as the draft grows nearer. Melbourne and the Blues will contemplate bids inside the top-10 and are the teams most likely to call his name.
He is likely to be the second player who attracts a bid on the night behind Greater Western Sydney Academy star Tom Green.
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The Giants have been proactive in getting ahead of the bid, but will also have the option of trading back down the order depending where a rival calls Green’s name.
GWS Academy prospect Tom Green is a top-five talent. Picture: AFL Photos
There is not expected to be as many early bids as last season, when there were five players who attracted rival bids in the first 25 selections.
Hawthorn father-son Finn Maginness will likely receive a bid late in the first round or early in the second, while Port Adelaide father-son Jackson Mead could get past the Power’s pick 29, which would be the ideal result for the club.
judds a ■■■■
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Matching a pick and then on trading your current pick to move back in the draft for more points kind of sucks, means we will most likely be pushed back the order.
Hope Dodoro has got some deals ready to go on the night to move up the order.
Is kind of funny GWS traded to try and get in front of Greene Bid, but may end up trading pick 6 back for points. Still I would rather them lose pick 6.
Getting rid of the academy and father son discount would eliminate these bogus deals.
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I don’t really see the issue.
Could be beneficial really if we were to trade up ourselves or in moving up order the clubs using more picks ahead of us than they normally would have if just matched with their high pick they had.
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its only beneficial for the club moving up.
every other club gets pushed back.
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