Trade talk - from October 2024 (Part 7)

You would hope the targets would be
Reid
Rowell
Starcevich (free agent)
Oscar Allen (free agent)

Can see us going after Allen with Vozzos’ connection to the Eagles seems like Hawks are in front of the que for his services

What about Allen’s knees ?

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I assume they come as part of the package

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Dunno.

Maybe a bigger but shorter upfront contract to free agency where he can pick where he wants to go.

Still cash in hand.

Maybe he has some sort of income insurance policy with GWS.

Cos you would be spewing if you knocked that back then say did a knee.

Or maybe the AFL stepped in and saved StKilda from itself

Could’ve done the Dunkley trade

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This would be my concern…Or a bout of concussion.

As a young man, you could set up your entire life within a 2 year period.

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If it was a legit offer.

Hard to believe StKilda would pay 17 mill on one player for that period of time.

That bout of concussion or a knee would blow up in their face!

Along with every other club in Victoria…

Yeah but I think will be in front of the que we also have the trade currency to make WC happy

I don’t think there’s realistically any amount of trade currency that would make West Coast legit happy about losing Reid, to be fair.

He’s on track to be a very very good player, but his asking price would be absurd and it makes me twitch to think about.

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How desperately do we need Harley Reid?

Is our midfield that bad? If Reid comes in, who does he replace?

Would we be better off using the 3 firsts (assuming that’s the price) to try and land another small forward like Kako? A pacey half back flanker like NWM? A winger like Errol Gulden?

I’d back Rosa to nail 2 of those 3 picks.

Tough call for mine.

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umm everyone

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Carlton 3.16 34 def by Reid 24.15 159

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Fixed

Harley Reid is still vey young but he has the potential to be a great player; a top 5 player in the comp I’d say. Finding a place for him in our midfield is easy because he is better than most of them! West Coast would go after Chad Warner so I think they’d be happy to land Warner and a decent 1st rounder for Harley (which would be fair imo as Chad is a gun and could be argued to be worth 2 1st rounders too). We have the picks to help them so unless Harley re-signs for a couple of years I think we’d have a decent chance and these opportunities don’t come around that often so I’d take the risk and do the trade.

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Five including Baldwin. At the time I thought he went one too many. Given the historical failure rate.

In hindsight given the uncertainties around the 2020 draft the strategy was probably fine. I’m not sure why drafting five over 3 years is somehow better than over one.

If you’ve got tunnel vision to replace all the soon to be retired talls on the list, maybe you aren’t considering other players available in the draft at that time ?
And we obviously traded up the year before to get Jones, so we rated him.

But at what price? I think most Blitzers at the time would have been angry switching for a Collingwood first given their recent history of finishing top 4ish. Reputedly EFC did try to do a trade but didn’t get great offers. Brisbane traded two firsts for a single future first.

Richmond did ok trading one on the night to Geelong, but Geelong had just played in a GF.

This is with hindsight though. Collingwood had played finals the last four years, including top 2 and top 4 finishes. Nobody expected that pick to become #2.

If we’re using hindsight we should also have traded our 2021 picks. In 2020 we finished 13th and lost JF, Raz, Saad and McKenna. Nobody expected us to finish 8th. We could have made bank on that pick.

EDIT: possibly the real miss was getting Carlton’s 2020 first rather than 2021. But if Carlton viewed 2020 vs 2021 like everyone else, it may not have been on the table. And I think most expected Carlton to finish top 8.

Isn’t all the evidence that they were unwilling to trade?