US politics - fried (part 5)

[Loflyer]

It’s state by state over there anyway. Using gender affirmation surgery as a Fed election gambit is exactly what it looks, sounds and smells like.

Stop shouting look over there and start providing examples, beyond slogans and wishful thoughts, of policy.

[wimmera1]

Again, I never encouraged the hanging of my own vice-president, so there are levels here.

[Crazy_Bomber]

@Bigpapa

@Crazy_Bomber

Interesting, do you have an age cut-off that someone can change genders? Is it acceptable for a 3 year old to have their genders changed if their parents see them playing with a doll? Or perhaps it is 7 years old? Not having a go, interested in your opinion.

It needs to be coming from all three parties. The child needs to be at an age where they can make an informed decision, so 3 years old is out of the picture same with a 7 year old.

No one is performing a gender realignment surgery because a kid plays with a doll?

For under 18 year Olds, do some reading about ‘Gillick Competence’.

So a child can make an informed decision? Very interesting…at what age should that occur then for you?

[alex.f.94]

@wimmera1

modern internet acceptance of pansexuality

its a slippery slope when you start letting internet trends dictate medical advice and intervention.

[wimmera1]

No child is getting surgery without adult consent on some level.

That’s some real bullshit you’re talking right there.

[Crazy_Bomber]

@wimmera1

Again, I never encouraged the hanging of my own vice-president, so there are levels here.

So you’re in the same catagory as him, using threats of physical violence to people you disagree with? Huh. I guess you and him and more alike then you like to think.

[wimmera1]

Quote.

Or stop.

[Loflyer]

Here’s a little bit of what Trump has said openly will resemble his policy framework - happy to let unelected folks do the work for him in the lead up, I’m assuming you guys are similarly happy for others to do the work for you here - these are some Project 25 policies

Project 2025 seeks to

• Place the entire Executive Branch of the U.S. federal government under direct presidential control, eliminating the independence of the Department of Justice, Federal Communications Commission, Federal Trade Commission and other agencies.
• Direct the Justice Department to pursue people whom Trump considers disloyal or political adversaries.
• Remove Civil Service protections so as to make government workers easy to fire, and replace as many government workers as possible with Trump loyalists.
• Quell mass protests by deploying the military for domestic law enforcement under the Insurrection Act.
• Destroy government attempts to rein in climate change by repealing the Inflation Reduction Act (which funds clean technology), closing the Loan Programs Office at the Department of Energy, eliminating climate change from the National Security Council agenda, and encouraging allied nations to use fossil fuels.
• Rescind all government regulations prohibiting discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation, gender identity, transgender status, sex characteristics, etc., and abolish diversity, equity and inclusion initiatives.

[Brewer_s_Droop]

[Crazy_Bomber]

@wimmera1

Quote.

Or stop.

@wimmera1

want to seriously punch people out.
Which a female to male person I know absolutely could, but wouldn’t.

@wimmera1

I’d punch someone out at the slightest suggestion.

Violence in all forms should be stopped.

[Loflyer]

You’re being very silly now. US Politics thread, not petty bulsshit thread or gender questions thread

[planb]

As a human - I don’t know the guy.

As a world leader, the best option available, and the better policies put forward.

America should take care of their own backyard, instead of starting pointless wars and playing world police every term.

Ukraine & Russia is only escalating, and there is no sign the Democrats intend to change this. People should be more concerned by this, and voting for the party advocating for peace and open discussions.

[Bigpapa]

Yes I do, I think they can, and it’s a process for that to happen.
Try to think about your own sexuality and gender. I mean for me it’s so obvious?
I can totally understand a teen saying, I’m a boy or a girl and I know it.
But you didn’t include my edit in your quote. Are you getting confused with socially identifying?

Because I think this is where misinformation spreads with this debate. An 8 year old saying I’m a boy or a girl and I want to wear pants or a dress is different to a gender surgery.

On biologically transitioning, I’m not an expert on it, but given you want an opinion now, 16 years old, with parents consent and going through the relevant assessments. Or they would have to go through the court order process.

[wimmera1]

You’re selective quoting is pathetic.

I’ll say again, IF I had the years long traumatic experience of being misgendered, and I had to put up with ignoramuses (not looking at anyone) talking about my transition as mutilation, then I would be A Lot Angrier than those that have actually been through that appear to be.

And I know you know that.
And I’ve lost a Lot of respect for you.

[loyalandproud]

@planb

As a human - I don’t know the guy.

What do you think of him from what you’ve seen, heard and read?
You must have some sort of opinion, as we all do about many people in the world we’ve not actually met but have witnessed in action many times from afar.

[planb]

So you agree there should be a restriction under the age of 13 but support beyond the age of 14.

Is that now anti trans hate speech?

We only disagree on the age.

[Loflyer]

@planb

As a world leader, the best option available, and the better policies put forward.

He won’t ever be World Leader, whatever that is. And his actions on the world stage last time achieved an Iron Maiden on the Doomsday Clock. You’re not serious anyway.

If you were you’d interrogate the following

• Place the entire Executive Branch of the U.S. federal government under direct presidential control, eliminating the independence of the Department of Justice, Federal Communications Commission, Federal Trade Commission and other agencies.
• Direct the Justice Department to pursue people whom Trump considers disloyal or political adversaries.
• Remove Civil Service protections so as to make government workers easy to fire, and replace as many government workers as possible with Trump loyalists.
• Quell mass protests by deploying the military for domestic law enforcement under the Insurrection Act.
• Destroy government attempts to rein in climate change by repealing the Inflation Reduction Act (which funds clean technology), closing the Loan Programs Office at the Department of Energy, eliminating climate change from the National Security Council agenda, and encouraging allied nations to use fossil fuels.
• Rescind all government regulations prohibiting discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation, gender identity, transgender status, sex characteristics, etc., and abolish diversity, equity and inclusion initiatives.

[wimmera1]

Do we?
At what age are you suggesting mutilation occurs?

sigh
Sorry for being antagonistic. That was actually a reasonable, constructive reply.
But I’m still hung up on your buzzword original post.

[planb]

We weren’t in a proxy war with Russia under Trump’s term.

Surely that’s more relevant than the “doomsday clock”

[Loflyer]

Ffs. Seeya.