US politics - fried (part 5)

There have been rare reports of rare instances of children regretting transitioning.
Against this , the psychological impact on children being prevented or discouraged from changing their gender has been documented .
It’s like anti vaxxers latching on to an adverse reaction for some. Sometimes it has been faked, IIRC in regard to a measles vax.

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Kinda weird…
Russia decided to invade.
The US has supported the defenders of their homeland (a bit, not a lot, but a bit).
Russia gets weaker by the day, and that’s…bad policy?

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I actually have no idea why you are so angry.

No one argued against the ability to become trans and no one at all said it should be illegal, the only argument being made was the age that it should be allowed to happen, as children don’t have the ability to have informed decision and parents are all too often ill-equipped to be making those decisions for them. I think that’s a fair discussion, and one that takes the long term mental well being of the children involved as a priority. At 18 years old you become an adult and can make any decision about your own body that you wish.

You jumping to violence doesn’t solve anything and only hinders whatever points you try and make. You hate violent people and threaten it in the same breath. Just relax.

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I’m relaxed.
I will always support the trans experience of the people I know, because they’re lovely.

Please don’t reply to me on this topic anymore. I don’t think you have anything constructive to say about it.

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At the age of 18 you’re in a better position to make significant life altering decisions.

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Trump enabled Putin, and undermined Ukraine. But what’s the point? It’s gutter scrapes right now. Consequences are for Losers

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I agree.
But parents and child and doctors will know from ages 12-15 that this is not a phase.
In fact, parents will have known long before then.

And again; what a horrible position to be in. For everyone.
Kindness and acceptance is what’s required here.

I have no problem with initial steps being taken from ages 15 and above. Whether that’s just dress or identity.

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Sure we weren’t.

Putin’s involvement in things like Brexit, undermining the US election process and destabilization of democracy around the word were simply a product of our imagination.

The Salisbury poisonings nope didn’t happen. Litvinenko, unfortunate accident.

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It’s nobody’s farking business but the individual and their family. Why so obsessed Trumpettes?

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IIRC, in Victoria at least, there has only been one case of an under 18yo allowed to transition without both parents consent. This was after a court case with extensive scientific evidence.
Transitioning is subject to rigorous conditions. It’s not a simple matter of a kid wanting it and the parents giving the OK.

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I’m sure they’re absolutley lovely Wimm, no one has ever questioned that apart from in your mind.

I stand against violence in all forms, hopefully you can do the same.

Yawn

Ironically it actually is policy talk as it’s one a talking point in the USA.

I see no irony and all you’ve been doing is baiting Wimmera.

Discuss

  • Place the entire Executive Branch of the U.S. federal government under direct presidential control, eliminating the independence of the Department of Justice, Federal Communications Commission, Federal Trade Commission and other agencies.
  • Direct the Justice Department to pursue people whom Trump considers disloyal or political adversaries.
  • Remove Civil Service protections so as to make government workers easy to fire, and replace as many government workers as possible with Trump loyalists.
  • Quell mass protests by deploying the military for domestic law enforcement under the Insurrection Act.
  • Destroy government attempts to rein in climate change by repealing the Inflation Reduction Act (which funds clean technology), closing the Loan Programs Office at the Department of Energy, eliminating climate change from the National Security Council agenda, and encouraging allied nations to use fossil fuels.
  • Rescind all government regulations prohibiting discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation, gender identity, transgender status, sex characteristics, etc., and abolish diversity, equity and inclusion initiatives.
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Agree, apart from when someone makes a respectful post outlying why they people vote Republican, then we throw those principles out the door and abuse them however we want because we disagree with them. Kindness and love are only principles we adhere to if it confirms with our viewpoint.

It’s a farking hamster wheel of bollocks!

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I think that yes, kindness and respect for all opinions is a good thing. I do think that there is sometimes an over rotation into thinking all opinions, no matter how uninformed or bonkers, deserve the same treatment as factual statements. And then, a lot of playing the victim when someone is rightly called out on it.

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There’s nothing respectful about the word mutilation.

And seriously, done with you.

Done with you calling me angry, which I’m not.
Done with you saying I call for violence, which I don’t.
Done with you misrepresenting me because you can’t accept that Trump is a freaking fruitcake.

That’s your problem. Not mine.
And again, stop.
Please.

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Yeah Crazy, look, you got to take some responsibility. I get you want to debate but understand it started from the use of the phrase ‘child mutilation’ and you yourself gave the scenario of talking about 3 years and 7 years old playing with a doll in the context of gender surgery, which is pretty inflammatory language and examples, so you’re going to get some passionate responses.

It’s buzzword and It’s a misrepresentation of the debate.

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I’m sorry, the idea that people who have no relationship with trans people have a better idea than parents or doctors or the person themselves…

Just simply no.
That is all.

Find another hot button issue.

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