US politics - fried (part 5)

Effective in what way?

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From what I understand Reagan deteriorated in his second term, more particularly his last 3 years of his 8. Biden is probably more cooked at year 3 than Reagan was at the same time and perhaps comparing the two at re-election year 4 is a better measure

In any case I agree Reagan was cooked at the end and it looks like Biden is cooked now …… but he’s stopping a lunatic so that’s a positive

And that’s the beauty of the discussion. Totally different perspectives.

As I said, even most Dems would argue Biden is a withering old man who needs to step aside. Problem is, there’s obviously nobody up to the task of replacing him. If there is somebody, Biden will quietly step aside in time.

Never thought I’d say it, but the marionettists behind Biden seem to be doing a pretty solid job policy wise so far, Democrats could do a lot worse than wheeling him out again Weekend at Bernie’s style next year.

They gotta get a proper VP though, Harris is dreadful and the high possibility of Biden carking it if reelected makes the VP position much more important.

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In having an agenda and then driving it. The inflation reduction act has had an immense effect on the US economy and NATO is the strongest it’s been in decades due to Biden’s diplomatic nuance.

Bush was a dumb puppet, Obama didn’t take his opportunities and Trump played dress up while McConnell did what McConnell always wanted.

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Discussion is apparently stating opinion as fact, immutable and arrogant, impervious to new information and insight. Fark that dinner table, how tedious.

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If Biden isn’t going to run he needs to start paving the way for Newcom or Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg, or Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer

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I’ll rephrase that a little:

If Biden wasn’t intended into run he would already have started paving the way for a successor.

But it’s quite possible he finds himself in a bind, because he’s the one who selected Harris to be his VP, and transferring his endorsement from her to another 2024 candidate while she is still serving as his VP would be a very brutal betrayal, and would heavily destabilise the last year of his presidency.

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He has to run, senile or not. Get elected and stand down.

Harris will have to make it seem she doesn’t want it as there is no way she’d win.

Nato is the weakest it has been in its history.

Erdogan recently said: ā€œI trust Russia as much as I trust the Westā€.

He also just yesterday threatened Israel’s existence.

Blinkens reaction to Bidens recent comments would also support the notion that Biden has no diplomatic nuance.

On the economy, only 14% of Americans under Biden state they are better off.

He has does nothing to rebuild domestic nuclear fuel lines and is still buying NUCLEAR FUEL off RUSSIA.

Ignore Turkey. Erdogan is going to play the populist angle at all times, but he has more to gain from being inside NATO than out. That isn’t NATO being weak, it is Erdogan playing games to make himself look strong domestically. It’s largely bluff and theatre. Erdogan is playing all sides against each other, he needs Russia’s money to counter the hyper inflation crisis Turkey is experiencing.

Until the Russian invasion, NATO had no sense of purpose. When Putin moved to conquer Ukraine, largely through Biden’s leadership almost every NATO member donated a huge amount of aid and implemented bulk sanctions despite very real domestic economic consequences. NATO is currently more committed to joint security than any time since the end of the Cold War.

Regarding US economic polling, inflation has returned to normal but it historically takes about 6 months for people to notice that change. The economic data in America show strong confidence even if the polling shows lower confidence.

And yeah, Biden doesn’t have a filter. He’s told it like it is on things like defending Taiwan or calling Xi a dictator. It causes issues. I see that largely as a sideshow though.

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If NATO is conjoined at the hip of Ukraine, and Ukraine is said to be losing - doesn’t really suggest NATO is strong, does it?

Hang on, are you trying to say that NATO, or the US…is weak?

What sort of russian backed news have you been reading mate :joy:

Who is saying that?

I haven’t read that anywhere.

Inflation isn’t something that magically gets resolved overnight, but the trajectory is headed in the right direction. That will take time to flow through to all aspects of the economy, hence the 6 months in historical equivalent events.

And Ukraine, I hope you’ll take me on my record when I say Ukraine is definitely not losing. They are not winning currently, but that is very different to losing. The main problem for the Ukraine war effort currently is 6 fringe GOP members of Congress blocking another aid package. If the GOP pulls the rug out from under Ukraine, the ammunition will dry up and a catastrophic defeat will occur. If the ammunition tap opens again the Ukrainians will continue to fight exceptionally well. I suggest not looking at the right wing media for quality unbiased Ukraine analysis.

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plus UKR isn’t actually in NATO so can’t enjoy the full advantages of being part of the defensive alliance

and despite that, has still resisted the ā€˜second strongest military in the world’

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Very, very laypersons read, but if Russia continue to lose ground and equipment and men as they have since their initial incursion, then they can’t afford to keep winning like that…

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That’s right. It’s actually as simple as having a different view to you it appears…

Anyone. He / they just need to have a contingency ready, it needs to be activated.