You have to wonder what it is in a woman's makeup that attracts her to violent men. If Captain Jack's friend has been bashed by 4 different partners....Bugger this, it sounds as if I’m shifting the blame, but some women do go for the bad boys, thinking they can alter their behaviour…rarely happens. There are also lots of women who are repulsed by violent men.
While there are women who are attracted to the rougher element, that is not the case here.
You have to wonder what it is in a woman's makeup that attracts her to violent men. If Captain Jack's friend has been bashed by 4 different partners....Bugger this, it sounds as if I’m shifting the blame, but some women do go for the bad boys, thinking they can alter their behaviour…rarely happens. There are also lots of women who are repulsed by violent men.
Careful.
It’s true. but I don’t think you’re allowed to say that anymore.
The real villain in this picture is the friend-zoned guy who bought her flowers.
Problem is that people twist it to say you’re condoning the men’s behaviour, which I’m not trying to do.
There was a famous scene in The Accused where Jodie Foster cavorted provocatively on a pinball machine. I know the guys had to get consent, but you’re doing that in an environment of drunks, you’re just asking for trouble.
You don’t swim in crocodile-infested waters. Everyone’s got to be careful out there.
I knew a girl back in the 90s who was incapable of making a decision that was the “right option” for her. She continually picked the option that led to problems. Tons of guys are like that too. Some people just seem predisposed to trouble.
Correct your honour, correct:
““Family violence has for decades been ignored and trivialised,” Justice Lasry told the court.”
Correct your honour, correct:““Family violence has for decades been ignored and trivialised,” Justice Lasry told the court.”
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-12-17/parminder-singh-sentenced-over-murder-of-wife/7036040
The act is extreme, though the under lining need for the male to control the female is very common.
bI suspect there is more to this story than meets the eye.Please elaborate and/or speculate.Not sure.
But I do find it very unusual that a victim would willingly present herself to police with clear evidence of assault yet the police would do nothing about it.Happens all the time Trip, it is why a lot of women refuse to go to the police first.
Where is your evidence of this? I was a poice officer and my entire command area had a zero tolerance to family violence.
A few years ago it depended so much on your local Police management. In our Town the top cop then was from the old school where most domestic violence matters were viewed as something private. The Police attending these incidents were often not supported from above,
Saw a massive change when Ken Lay become Commissioner and he mandated zero tolerance. The big issue then and since, is the poor effort from magistrates once the matter gets to court, who often just give a violent mongrel a severe stare and a good behaviour bond. I concede that the perpetrator often comes from a violent home where they were bashed, and they do need therapy and ongoing support, but the victim needs to get help first.
With a number of women admitting to being attracted to aggressive, arrogant blokes one can only assume it’s an extremely unwanted side effect from whatever it is about that personality type they like. At the risk of sounding insensitive I have known a disturbingly large number of women (including family members, friends, stories from exes and stories from my current partner) who fall head over heals for arrogant blokes and seem to have no d*ck head filter all the while. Warnings from their loved ones even fall on deaf ears.
And it continues, it is easier to believe it is a lie than accept it truly happened. Violence against women won’t change until society starts taking it seriously.
If you read that carefully you can see where it starts wrong, this women has issues therefore we doubt her story. The position taken at the start is one of disbelief due to her past. Why not start with acceptance and work from there? It just continues the path of victim blaming until enough evidence proves otherwise.
WARNING: This story contains graphic content
Lani Brennan was nearly killed by her former partner on Christmas night years ago.
“I knew deep down, like I had that feeling, I was going to die that night,” she said.
“We started a bonfire at the front of the house, and when he started the bonfire, he bought out some drinks, and then he come back out the next time he come back out with a hammer, and he started beating me with the hammer.”
Her former partner dragged her into the house, where the attack continued for many hours.
“He dragged me in and I was beaten, physically and sexually assaulted the whole night continuously,” she said.
“If you can picture a house, every piece of furniture, every tool that’s inside a household, I was beaten with.”
If you read that carefully you can see where it starts wrong, this women has issues therefore we doubt her story. The position taken at the start is one of disbelief due to her past. Why not start with acceptance and work from there? It just continues the path of victim blaming until enough evidence proves otherwise.
Are you suggesting that we just assume every person accused of sexual assault is guilty, until they prove their innocence?
If you read that carefully you can see where it starts wrong, this women has issues therefore we doubt her story. The position taken at the start is one of disbelief due to her past. Why not start with acceptance and work from there? It just continues the path of victim blaming until enough evidence proves otherwise.Are you suggesting that we just assume every person accused of sexual assault is guilty, until they prove their innocence?
No thanks.
That's not what he's saying. That's a judicial process.If you read that carefully you can see where it starts wrong, this women has issues therefore we doubt her story. The position taken at the start is one of disbelief due to her past. Why not start with acceptance and work from there? It just continues the path of victim blaming until enough evidence proves otherwise.Are you suggesting that we just assume every person accused of sexual assault is guilty, until they prove their innocence?
Right now there’s a lot of this going on
I think it would be nice if there was less.
If you read that carefully you can see where it starts wrong, this women has issues therefore we doubt her story. The position taken at the start is one of disbelief due to her past. Why not start with acceptance and work from there? It just continues the path of victim blaming until enough evidence proves otherwise.Are you suggesting that we just assume every person accused of sexual assault is guilty, until they prove their innocence?
No, I am saying they believe the girl first and offer the right sort of support, then investigate the alleged crime to see whether all the evidence supports that, then go to court to let them decide the ultimate outcome. In this case they didn’t even look to see if anyone was out there doing this, she didn’t name names because she didn’t know who did it so she wasn’t accusing an individual.
What happened in this case though was that everyone assumed she made it up and proceeded from that point. Then they found out that she was actually telling the truth and they had allowed a serial rapist continue on more victims. If they had bothered to look for similar cases they might have had a chance of catching him earlier.
Even if a person names another, BOTH parties should be considered innocent until proven guilty and the facts and evidence should be weighed up, not assumed one way or the other as is often the case.
If you read that carefully you can see where it starts wrong, this women has issues therefore we doubt her story. The position taken at the start is one of disbelief due to her past. Why not start with acceptance and work from there? It just continues the path of victim blaming until enough evidence proves otherwise.Are you suggesting that we just assume every person accused of sexual assault is guilty, until they prove their innocence?
No, I am saying they believe the girl first and offer the right sort of support, then investigate the alleged crime to see whether all the evidence supports that, then go to court to let them decide the ultimate outcome. In this case they didn’t even look to see if anyone was out there doing this, she didn’t name names because she didn’t know who did it so she wasn’t accusing an individual.
What happened in this case though was that everyone assumed she made it up and proceeded from that point. Then they found out that she was actually telling the truth and they had allowed a serial rapist continue on more victims. If they had bothered to look for similar cases they might have had a chance of catching him earlier.
Even if a person names another, BOTH parties should be considered innocent until proven guilty and the facts and evidence should be weighed up, not assumed one way or the other as is often the case.
I tend only to lurk the more controversial threads because I have this terrible habit of skim reading, wording things badly, and/or not conveying my point accurately.
Your last paragraph is basically how I feel about this. I didn’t read the case you linked to (not yet anyway) so I guess I didn’t quite get the context you were talking in. Apologies if I came across overly aggressive with my question, I wasn’t trying to be inflammatory.
Thing is, I’ve seen first hand what can happen to a man (well, adolescent male) when he is deliberately wrongly accused of assaulting a female, and I will admit that I retain a healthy dose of skepticism every time I read about one of these stories. I’m not saying they were right not to believe her, nor am I condoning victim blaming - I’m just urging people to scratch a bit deeper than the surface in these matters.
So far today police in Australia would have dealt with, on average, 243 domestic violence matters. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-05-29/domestic-violence-data/6503734 via @ABCNews
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http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/rendezview/we-talk-about-violence-against-women-but-not-this-woman/story-fnpug1jf-1227684138756?sv=d5dd28f5a30d9d726332bf10559b7b34
Is he/she/it getting belted because he/she/it is a woman, or because he/she/it is a big boofhead.
I’ve still got my doubts about some of this transgender crap. Every time I look, there’s another letter tacked on after LGB
“We’re going to stab you, you ■■■■■■!” Doesn’t leave much room for doubt.
I don’t think she’d said a word to the two little fuckwits who assaulted her.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/rendezview/we-talk-about-violence-against-women-but-not-this-woman/story-fnpug1jf-1227684138756?sv=d5dd28f5a30d9d726332bf10559b7b34Is he/she/it getting belted because he/she/it is a woman, or because he/she/it is a big boofhead.
Does it matter? Neither are good enough reasons